Sad for you Es... no matter how we try and prepare ourselves for the worst, it is never an easy thing to deal with!
Princess Daisy Boo
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My nana passed away tonight.
by Es ini receieved an sms of my mum saying nan was slipping away i literally called as soon as i got the msg, and she had already passed away.
things were looking up for a bit, we were managing to get some water and food into her and she had accepted to have a tube put in her, they tried last night but it was unsuccessful.. when i saw her on saturday it was the most alert she was, sunday she had very laboured breathing and tonight when my mum go into the hosp, my nan was no responsive, it was like she just waited for my mum to come in and then she passed away.. im in shock, even tho i knew it was coming it was looking hopeful for a bit there.. thanks for your support.
es.
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Observation on Things Not said.
by Sparkplug inhave you ever noticed that around here more is said when people are silent than when they are talking sometimes.
not anything in particular, i just noticed that when people get silent, there usually is a reason.
hard times, drama, can't comment...etc.
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Princess Daisy Boo
Even when people say nothing, if they have looked at the thread, they might very well take something valuable away from it.
I, for one sometimes feel incredibly intimidated by the wise and witty people on this board ande feel that my two cents might be worth nothing!
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Princess Daisy Boo
Sometimes my son tells me that I am the worst mom in the world (generally when I have said NO) but mostly after his bath, whne he is all warm and fuzzy and sleepy, he come and curls up on my lap and tells me that he love the fattest mom (Yes, I am a bit chubby)
With my own mom and dad : Although I desperatly wish that my upbringing had been different, that they hadn't gotten trapped in 'the truth' back in the day, that I was given opportunities that normal 'worldly' kids had, and I do get bitter and twisted sometimes over it all, I know that I still love them more than I can express.
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Princess Daisy Boo
Hi Billzfan, If you type in Jehovah's Witness under their group search, you find a number of groups relating to the witnesses, but I find the crowd here are far more entertaining, intelligent and caring. I guess facebook also seems to be far less anonymous!
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Princess Daisy Boo
oops, hit enter a tad prematurely there....
Just wondering, how many of you are on facebook and whether the JW groups on there are of any value to you?
Regards
Princess DB
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Princess Daisy Boo
Hi JWD
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FArticle in The Sunday Times (South Africa), 23 September 2007
by Princess Daisy Boo inlawyers acting for a durban hospital and paediatric surgeon made a mercy dash to the high court this week, securing a court order allowing them to give a critically ill two-year-old girl a blood transfusion in the face of staunch opposition from her jehovah's witness parents.. .
in granting the order giving parklands hospital and surgeon abdool shaik authority to do whatever is necessary over the next seven days to save the little girl's life, durban high court judge herbert msimang said the court, as the upper guardian of all children, had to act in their best interests.. .
the parents, thabani and simangele mabanga, who were supported in court by members of their church, had argued earlier that god was the ultimate guardian, and that according to their religious beliefs they would not give consent for a transfusion.. .
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Princess Daisy Boo
Hi Y
Unfortunatly, no news on the courst case issue... apparently the case was postponed and my sister is not aware of the new court date... will keep you all informed!
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FArticle in The Sunday Times (South Africa), 23 September 2007
by Princess Daisy Boo inlawyers acting for a durban hospital and paediatric surgeon made a mercy dash to the high court this week, securing a court order allowing them to give a critically ill two-year-old girl a blood transfusion in the face of staunch opposition from her jehovah's witness parents.. .
in granting the order giving parklands hospital and surgeon abdool shaik authority to do whatever is necessary over the next seven days to save the little girl's life, durban high court judge herbert msimang said the court, as the upper guardian of all children, had to act in their best interests.. .
the parents, thabani and simangele mabanga, who were supported in court by members of their church, had argued earlier that god was the ultimate guardian, and that according to their religious beliefs they would not give consent for a transfusion.. .
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Princess Daisy Boo
Lawyers acting for a Durban hospital and paediatric surgeon made a mercy dash to the High Court this week, securing a court order allowing them to give a critically ill two-year-old girl a blood transfusion in the face of staunch opposition from her Jehovah's Witness parents.
In granting the order giving Parklands Hospital and surgeon Abdool Shaik authority to do whatever is necessary over the next seven days to save the little girl's life, Durban High Court Judge Herbert Msimang said the court, as the upper guardian of all children, had to act in their best interests.
The parents, Thabani and Simangele Mabanga, who were supported in court by members of their church, had argued earlier that God was the ultimate guardian, and that according to their religious beliefs they would not give consent for a transfusion.Their daughter was admitted to hospital at the end of August suffering from pneumonia. She was diagnosed with a massive sub-hepatic abscess in her abdominal cavity and was referred to Shaik for surgery.
In his affidavit before the judge, Shaik said she was critically ill - "in the early stages of cardiac arrest" - and in urgent need of abdominal surgery and a blood transfusion to enable the surgery to be performed.
Because of the nature of the surgery, she would lose a considerable amount of blood.
"This will be compensated by the giving of a blood transfusion prior to and possibly after surgery. It is my opinion, and the opinion of the anaesthetist, that in the absence of this, the child is unlikely to survive surgery."
This had been explained to the parents, but they had declined to authorise the blood transfusions "as it is contrary to the tenets of their faith".
On Monday the parents had indicated that if emergency surgery was required, and all efforts to avoid a blood transfusion had failed, and Shaik regarded it as vital to save her life, then the transfusion could be done.
But they changed their minds and withdrew this "conditional authority".
"I am now concerned that the parents might withdraw their consent to the life-saving surgery as well," Shaik said.
The parents suggested during Tuesday's court hearing that the doctor should consider using a synthesised protein product that reportedly helps to oxygenate the blood.
But they only handed in pamphlets on the product and had no medical evidence to back them up. It was also suggested that the product had not been registered for use on small children in South Africa.
Advocates acting for the hospital and the doctor said they respected the parents' right to their religious beliefs but that that had to be weighed against the constitutional right to life. They referred to a similar case in Johannesburg in 2003 in which the court had granted a similar order.
Approached by The Mercury on Wednesday, Gillian Williams, of MacRobert, the firm representing the doctor, said the little girl was being operated on on Wednesday and would be transfused during and, if necessary, after the surgery. -
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Mixed Race Couples - WTS literature
by TheListener inhas anyone ever seen a mixed race couple shown in paradise in the wts literature?.
i haven't.
i've seen pictures of modern day mixed race couples but never ever in paradise..
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Princess Daisy Boo
I vagulely recall talks about this at the KH years ago, and the scriptures quoted were something to do with animals of different breeds not mating and basically if relationships did occur they would be fraught with difficulty because of cultural difference etc.(forgive if I sound so vague, but I am quite proud that I can't recall either the words or the scripture) however there was no hard and fast rule about this, which I suppose might be in their favour considering this was late apartheid era.
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'Apostate'
by lfcviking indefinition from the american heritage dictionary:.
'one who has abandoned ones religious faith, a political party, ones principles or a cause'.
thousands of people leave the watchtower org every year, some become atheist, some agnostic, some choose to follow another religion and some develop their own beliefs, yet according to this dictionary definition all are apostate.
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Princess Daisy Boo
Growing up as a JW, I alsways heard the term Apostate and was taught to associate it with bad evil people... that only exited to print bad things about the witnessed and if read, would automatically poison my mind. Imagine my surprise when after a little thought, I read the dictionary defintion, and found it meant something altogether less sinister!